Friday, July 3, 2009

Redefining the Modern Marriage in a Postmodern World

This blog started as an introspective exercise to think about marriage and what it means to me. As a self-proclaimed feminist, I have struggled with the idea of marriage and whether or not it is something that I'd even want. I spent lots of time (over)thinking and trying to come up with conclusions. Eventually, I realized marriage means whatever you want it to mean. And I hope someday that it can mean something to me.

The following entry was inspired by an article I read in The Atlantic entitled Lets Call the Whole Thing Off, by Sandra Tsing Loh. Hat-tip to @eighteyes on twitter for pointing me to the piece. Apologies for such a long article but this topic doesn't quite lend itself to be short.

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Is Marriage Obsolete?
Writer Sandra Tsing Loh seems to think so. Despite Americans being vastly more religious than Europeans, we also have the highest divorce rates in the West. Andrew J. Cherlin, author of Marriage-Go-Round believes this is because "Americans hold two values at once: a culture of marriage and a culture of individualism." This is an interesting assertion because of its paradoxical nature. I have talked about American Rugged Independence before, and its effects on the Lonely American. It seems as if the balance between marriage and independence is a fine line that few master, with marriage and divorce rates at a projected 90%. What is a "Culture of Marriage" and what is a "Culture of Individualism" and how can we merge the two together in a more effective way?

A Culture of Marriage
The culture of marriage is generally female driven. From a young age, girls are taught to dream about their big wedding day, and of "happily ever after" fairytales. The media focus on weddings via celebrity gossip, or such shows like Bridezilla and Buff Brides isn't much help. We have been socialized to believe that this is just what we do, and in turn, that this is what we want. Many don't question the traditional order of marriage and kids as if this is just how it's done. When heterosexual females are seen as going against the traditional order of things, parents, mothers, and peers may question her decisions. Even if a female is already married, but without kids, pressure from society deems it their duty to ask, or downright demand, when you will have kids.

Meanwhile, boys aren't off the hook either. While the pressure to marry isn't as ingrained since childhood, the pressure to marry comes later in life from their girlfriends. They may find pressure in a romantic (and traditional) proposal or pressure in a more traditional courtship. Although the 21st century is in a unique mix of transition, overruling tradition to the "hook up" culture, there is still a desire for the eventual "settling down" which has been positioned synonymously with marriage.

A Culture of Independence
The culture of independence is generally male driven. The need to Explore new worlds, dating back to ancient history, has been a male phenomenon. Men, evolutionary speaking, are the hunters and often need time to themselves, or with other groups of men to take a break from the notion of family, union or marriage. This is a regenerative state and is essential.

Meanwhile, as feminism has pushed women forward, so too are women joining in on the culture of independence. More women are attending college than men, and more women are going into the workforce to establish careers. Women are working hard to establish what men have taken for granted. The modern woman is financially independent, educated, career driven, and free-spirited. Education is also a factor in the rise of median marrying age. People are getting married later in life or simply not getting married at all, and choosing to cohabitate instead.

The Traditional Marriage
So what does this all mean? Is marriage obsolete? I believe we are in a transition phase and that the traditional marriage is becoming obsolete. However, I don't think this means marriage is obsolete, it is just changing in a technology driven, post-feminist society. Should we go back 50 years when marriages were more stable and when traditional marriage reigned? Not necessarily. Just because people stayed married, doesn't mean they were any happier than couples who stay married now. Just because they stayed married doesn't mean there weren't problems with cheating husbands. As Betty Friedan so coined "the problem that has no name" in the pinnacle of feminist 1950s literature, The Feminine Mystique, housewives weren't any more satisfied than women in the modern marriage. The only difference is that women are more likely to divorce than the housewives of the 50s. Is that liberation and empowerment these days?

The traditional marriage is between one man and one woman. The traditional marriage, like it's 1950s model, subscribes to gender roles and stereotypes and is ideally "til death do us part". The problem today isn't marriage, but how we think of marriage. Modern civil rights is for gay rights and is trying to redefine marriage to fit beyond one man and one woman and include homosexuals. The shift in perspectives that it would have to take to redefine marriage is getting quite the backlash, as people feel threatened and uncomfortable by the undoing of the "sanctity of marriage". Still, I believe this shift has to change. The fact that society, as a whole, is reluctant to do so only proves that we still view marriage in a traditional sense.

The traditional marriage is obsolete.

Open Relationships and Serial Monogamy: The Modern Marriage
More and more literature is coming out in favor of open marriages or open relationships, arguing that humans aren't evolutionary meant to be monogamous. While this may not be the view that I personally subscribe to, the sexually liberating 21st century is seeing a shift in perspectives as more people consider this model.

In Sandra Tsing Loh's article, she argues that people are meant to be serial monogamists, with relationships cycling in periods up to 5 years at a time. Humans just aren't meant for lifelong monogamy, and the few couples who make it are the anomoly. Whether or not you agree with serial monogamy or open relationships, both argue that humans just aren't meant for lifelong partnership. Both argue against the traditional marriage. Loh calls this a difference between "Old World" and "New World":

If marriage is the Old World and what lies beyond is the New World, it’s the apparently stable men (comfortable alone in their postfeminist den with their Cook’s Illustrated and their porn) who are Old Worlders, and the Girls’ Night Out, questionnaire-completing women who are the questing New Worlders.

Navigating the Postmodern World
In case you didn't get the memo, we live in a postmodern world. A world full of chaos, disconnection, fragmentation and a confusing reality where nothing is as certain as it seems, least of all marriage. So how do we marry the traditional marriage with the modern marriage? How can marriage work? Women are indeed at the forefront of New Worlders because we are at the forefront of feminism. We want more than just a sexless relationship, and practical marriage. Dare I say, we want romance. We want to know we're more than just the mom, with a set of roles increasingly hard to maintain in the fast-paced postmodern world.

The problem today isn't marriage, but how we think of marriage.

Society is at a transition. While we have modern marriage to navigate, we are still thinking of the traditional marriage as the goal, while often, at the same time despising tradition! Thus, more marriages end in divorce. Since the traditional marriage is obsolete, it is becoming harder to navigate without a solid model; a classically postmodern conundrum.

A redefinition is needed. Before a couple marries, both people should critically think about marriage and what it means to them in order to redefine what marriage can mean for eachother. Couples should set their own model, taking bits from society and their own personal experiences and preferences. One should not marry in the traditional sense because it's just how its done with little self reflection involved. Personal vows are one way to critically think about marriage and what it means for eachother. A re-evaluation and redefinition should take place periodically as marriage, and the people in them, often, and will, evolve.

The postmodern marriage is neither traditional nor modern, but a redefinition of each as pertains to each individual. Throw expectation of "til death do us part" out the window, but vow to work as a team to strive for that goal. It can be more classic and traditional, or it can be more open. It can be independent, or it can even be codependent. What's important is that you agree upon the model that you're working with with your partner. Where couples flounder is when a model is in transition, or when two people can't agree with the model. It is at these re-evalution stages where crossroads can either weaken or strengthen a couples' bond.

Marriage means whatever you want it to mean. Maybe only then, will marriage thrive, or even survive, but in this day and age it is not for certain.

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Sunday Scribblings: Human


Sources:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/education/09college.html
http://www.infoforhealth.org/pr/j41/j41chap1_4.shtml#top

36 wandering stars:

Vesper de Vil said...

i seem to have a strange split in my brain...i am fiercely independent and want my total freedom, but once i'm in a relationship i have monogamy on the brain...but it comes from the disney fairytale stuff i've been fed since babyhood. though i believe in true love, i believe less and less in a lifetime, sole sexual partner. i guess it depends on personality, too. some people just don't need variety....

floreta said...

thanks for the comment! and i feel the same way, or maybe worse. fiercely independent when i have to be but once in a relationship i am a pile of needy goo with monogamy on the brain. i'm believing less and less in a lifetime partner myself, although i don't want it to be the case. i think i DO want a lifetime partner, but given how i know sexuality realistically isn't going to last forever (or at least, sex), I would like a lifetime friend. i don't enter into relationships unless i can see longevity potential for such an outcome..

LiLu said...

Since the moment I saw the movie "Frida", this has been my view on marriage...

Tina Modotti: I don't believe in marriage. No, I really don't. Let me be clear about that. I think at worst it's a hostile political act, a way for small-minded men to keep women in the house and out of the way, wrapped up in the guise of tradition and conservative religious nonsense. At best, it's a happy delusion - these two people who truly love each other and have no idea how truly miserable they're about to make each other. But, but, when two people know that, and they decide with eyes wide open to face each other and get married anyway, then I don't think it's conservative or delusional. I think it's radical and courageous and very romantic."

floreta said...

oh my Lilu, that is such a GREAT quote and thank you for sharing!! and i would have to agree wholeheartedly on the quote. i saw "Frida", great movie but i don't remember that part.. Frida and Diego themselves had quite the progressive, unusual marriage. while i know their relationship wasn't perfect and they struggled thru jealousies and insecurities like the best of us, i thought it was totally romantic how they had separate houses that connect together :P

floreta said...

ps: i'd like to face marriage with eyes wide open :)

Bryan said...

Wow. And you were dreading this?

I have to ask, where does same-sex marriage fit into this? What do you think the meaning there is or will be once legalization spreads?

floreta said...

haha, wow is that a bad thing? :X
YES i was dreading this!! essay-like articles are HARD and time consuming and thus take more energy!

thanks for the question. i'm sure i can offshoot into another entry.. because i'm sure i'm not done with.. "marriage".

i used same-sex as an idea that's threatening traditional marriage. i do think it's necessary to break thru the binds of traditional marriage (ALREADY an obsolete thing, in my mind) that people are holding on to. i think this holding on to the traditional is actually making things worse! like i say, we're in a transition and things have to shift before it will get better.. before marriage can start to stabilize etc.

Does that answer your question??

Kimolisa said...

One thing for sure, I can count on you for weighty topics. Here is a reality, when I was young I had no belief that I was going to get married, I knew I was going to have a kid and that I would travel. As I got older, I think I bought into the concept of marriage and family. Fine and dandy, until I think of how the statistics are staggering in terms of marriages and divorces. Also the whole conversation of meeting someone worthy of marrying. I believe some of these divorces are because people were settling. People cheat because in the back of their minds they don't accept that the person they are with is the one. A good example is the governor of NC. I now am of the belief that when I do get married, I have no intention of getting a divorce. With that in mind, who ever I marry has to be the real deal. How I'm going to find him is another problem.

I think I'm rambling again.

Peace

bARE-eYED sUN said...

G-D! Floreta, how impressive!
you've posted a well written,
well thought out,
thought-provoking and timely piece. kudos!

wethinx we likes! :-)


a few thoughts:
on marriage being obsolete;
true traditional marriage is being tested and largely failing.
but, IS marriage failing or are we so acclimated to immediate satisfaction
that WE fail to endure and to put in the necessary investment that long-term
growth in ANY relationship (business/personal/spiritual) requires.

it seems that marriages fail once the work/fun ratio tips toward work.

why should we care?
recently you posted about going back to your roots.
we see a lot of that going on. our growing sense of disconnectedness
may have some bearing here. the disintigration of the tribe, the clan, the extended family, and more recently the family unit has left us searching
for footing/grounding; to be a part of a greater whole.

some see marriage as the glue that holds society together;
arguably the loss of marriage has left us more alone than ever before,
even as we "connect" with virtual and real "friends" in greater numbers and
in more transient relationships.


on what people are meant to be or do;

look, there's an awful lot of rationalizing going on
as we try to explain away our lack of discipline.

bad example: people aren't meant to shit in toilets,
but until someone comes up with a better idea,
lets be thankful that most people "hold it in" until they
find one.

anyhoo, thamk you for the post,
yours is consistently one of our favorite blogs.

and thank you for letting us rant.

finally, can we get another sexy picture of you posted,
what's the point of being an old man,
if we can't be a dirty old man. :-)


..
.ero

Nashe^ said...

It really does take a lot of courage to get married, doesn't it?

I think the reason why marriages in certain parts of the world don't work is partly due to the collective mindset the people have. Marriages still work where people are more conservatie. And yea, some people don't need variety.

Vesper de Vil said...

p.s. have you seen the film Elegy? i just saw it tonight, and i'm very, very moved. gorgeous story. deals with this topic precisely.

Nana said...

I agree with defining our relationships instead of following a pre-defined path, but we stil need some kind of structure of what a marriage is. Such as; civil marriage or church marriage...Are you 'married' when you have kids, when you live together, when you decide you are? No, you still need to go and get married, legally or spiritually, or both.

Vesper de Vil said...

this is a response to Nana -- thanks for commenting on my blog first of all...

and about marriage....why do we need marriage? who says that defines what love should be? i actually think of marriage in legal terms, not in spiritual, though i am a spiritual (not religious) person.

why do you think we need the structure of marriage? maybe you need the structure of marriage, but not everyone does. also, have you read the history of marriage? in the middle ages, before marriage began taking place publicly (eg. in a church), a couple was defined as married "in the eyes of god" if they merely lived together. for example...a man could take a concubine, and they would be considered married.

this was a topic i studied in university. also, i was married for five years. though i have nothing whatsoever against marriage, i don't think it's necessary AT ALL. in many cultures, it spells the ownership of the other, usually the woman.

floreta said...

kimolisa - perfectly ok to ramble here! :) i'm kind of the same as you. i really really don't want to get divorced. but so many people do! when/if i get married i want it to be the real deal. so i will not settle and i will not marry if i don't find that person i can honestly be confident with.

bare eyed sun - well thank you for YOUR well thought out comment! you are completely right that marriages start to fail once it get to be more work (which that article touches upon as well). and good point about people not wanting to put the time in in ANY form of growth (spiritual/business/personal). we are a quick gratification society. and the loneliness as we disconnect from Tribes absolutely has something to do with it. it is all interconnected. i also think another problem is that when people DO find their "One", they rely on them too much for everything (mental, spiritual, emotional connection) rather than branch out in tribes (friends, family, neighbors) to get their needs met in a more well-rounded/balanced way.

nashe - hmm interesting thought that marriage = conservative.. and still works.

vesper - no!! but thanks for the heads up

nana - hmm i'm not sure i agree, because i just wrote pretty much against that idea :D

vesper - well thought out.. thank you for your comments! i don't think marriage should define what love should be either. i don't think loving someone means you have to get married. in all honesty, i think i would be perfectly fine just living together with someone for years and years rather than legally get married. i do think, at least in my book, that it takes a special kind of relationship for me to get married and i wouldn't do so unless i feel its right.

Bryan said...

Haha, well, you've expressed your thoughts well so the time and effort were well used. I gotta stop using the word well.

Well, anyway. I was thinking less about how same sex marriage changes the traditional view and promotes social growth and more about the relationship itself such as

where the motivation to marry comes from. Is it just about rights and equality or is there something else that perhaps heterosexual couples can learn from?

whether homosexual couples suffer/will suffer from similar societal pressures (i.e. children) that may ultimately doom them to fail until they change too.

it's obviously conjecture at this point as same sex marriage is legally underage, but I'd still be interested to hear your opinion.

Sebastian said...

You don't discuss children at all...?

Where do kids, and the nurturing of them, fit into this 'serial monogamy' thing?

Raise them for 5 years, then let them fly the nest?

Humans aren't like other animals; we have very strong familial ties, not to mention our kids take the longest to mature in the entire animal kingdom (a price we pay for such a complex brain, if I recall correctly?)

So is this '5 year monogamy' thing simply so that we can satisfy our need to experience other people/relationships/sex? Or is there actually a 'pro-survival' reason for it?

Also, you say that men must take a break from family/union/marriage -- what's the source on that?

Old Grizz said...

Thanks for a blog that is provocative. It well written and you have put a lot of thought into what you write. As a man who was married for 5 years, divorced and re-married, (30 years) I have lived through what what you and a lot of other bloggers are saying. The answers change as society grows and changes. What we believe and think today will change tomorrow. I am only sure of two things:
1. my first marriage was for sex. nothing else mattered. After the magic of new sex died (and it always does in every relationship) the marriage was dead. We had nothing in common, nothing to build on.

2. my second marriage has been a blessing from God. I attribute that to the fact that we were both more mature and both had and have the same values in life. We have grown old together and our love has grown with us. If you change partners every 5 years, you will have 2 years of good sex and 3 years of misery because both of you will be looking for your next conquest and not trying to learn about true love and life.

Kristan said...

great post! personally I think the whole "people aren't meant to be monogamous" thing is ridiculous bc we do SO many things beyond our "natural" programming. but I agree that it might not be for everyone, and what's important is for a couple to make sure they define THEIR goals and expectations. like you said, it's not that marriage (or monogamy) is obsolete, but that relationships and how society views them is changing. and I think that's a good thing, bc like you said, no one before was necessarily any happier.

Retromus-ik said...

I agree. Before both people jump into marriage, it is essential for them to know what exactly it means for the both of them. I never believed in marriage, considering the divorce rates, and I just didnt think two people could make that promise to love one another no matter what & forever. The idea of a "forever" with another *that you love*, enjoying the continual companionship, although there will be ups and downs, its seems quite beautiful to me now.

Sophie said...

Being a child of the 60's and now past midway of my life, I've run the gamut of relationship models and beliefs from open to traditional. I've lived them all! I suspect that what we want and need in a partner/relationship differs as we live longer and experience more. I absolutely support your concept that each couple needs to define marriage as it works for them, but there needs to be a long-range perspective, especially if children will be involved.

linda may said...

I know I am old fashioned about some things but... Throughout nature females search for a prospective mate who will stay with them and help them look after and protect their babies. I think humans are one of those group.This applies to the higher animals anyway. I know that they don't always stay when the babies are grown though. Humans are just animals.Marriage is something we invented to stabilize that.
But when you look at things like the way other animals kill off the offspring of the previous dominant male or father. Look at today's society with what goes on at times in relationships involving single women and their new partners injuring the last partners children, are humans any different. It seems to happen over and over again. Maybe a relationship that is reinforced by a long term idea such as marriage isn't so bad after all. We have a strong biological impulse to procreate and protect the next generation.
That is another direction to think about.

Vesper de Vil said...

this comment is for Linda May -- we are animals AND we are NOT animals. we, unlike animals, are self-aware; we have self-consciousness. we can reflect on our behaviour and modify our behaviour as individuals or together as a group, according to the commong good. do animals have governments? do they have law? do they make art??

our vast differences (between human and animal) put us into a whole different category altogether. in this way, our minds and hearts transcend certain biological impulses. that said, it's very difficult to make sweeping statements about biology anyway. have you ever noticed the diversity of behaviour in the animal kingdom???

just a question, too...what do you think about homosexual animals? ...as there are many examples of that in NATURE? or what about females who eat the males after mating??? what about female animals who eat their own offspring?

many of the assumptions you are talking about are purely cultural or belief-driven...they are not biological or factual.

another thing...there are A LOT of female HUMANS who don't want children. this is a hugely rising trend.

i think what you said about a woman's new partner injuring her children is completely unfounded! what about women who injure their own children? what about father's who injure their own children?

many children, especially in more liberal countries, are sired not by their fathers but by other men...from men whom the mothers have had affairs with, for example. however, the fathers don't know this (and sometimes the mothers aren't even sure if her husband is the father, or the other man...), yet they raise the children as though they were their own.

AD said...

this is the bestest i have read so far for today :)
truly speakin.
you put a lot of thought and emotion into it!

it poured down word by word into me :)

thanks!

Nostalgic Human

numerounity said...

Marriage was a beatiful institution which is mocked by its own followers. There is more to marriage esp in India. Here marriages are more of calculative deals and the men folklore have an upperhand. Why to trust a union which though a very beautifully conceived realtion but so oddly, so calculatively managed?

lovelila said...

As Kimolisa said a few comments above me, I haven't really pictured of myself being married, but I can clearly see myself having a kid and traveling. I didn't have the marriage thing drilled into my head as a kid at all, my parents are divorced, and I wouldn't even call myself a feminist, but that's not why I'm on the fence about marriage.

As bad as it sounds, probably because of inexperience and a little heartbreak, I feel like I'm incapable of caring for someone in a romantic relationship. Deep down, I know it's not true, but I've become so jaded about romantic relationships that even though I would label myself as a romantic, I've gotten so used to not being in a relationship, that I don't even factor it as a possibility in my life anymore (and I'm not even 23, yet!).

I told my friends once that if I met a guy that actually made me believe it could happen for me, it would probably be the guy I'd end up someday marrying, haha! :P

floreta said...

bryan - hmmm yeah i'm not sure how homosexual couples work as compared to heterosexual couples.. i'm not an expert! i have known/been around same sex couples who are successfully living monogamous together and seem to be doing quite well. i actually live with one gay couple :) the thing about childrearing is that having lots of partners cycle through when you raise one is more bad for them than having them be raised by a stable situation, whether that's hetero, homo, or an extended family situation etc. as far as the motivation to marry, i always thought it was because of equal rights. i never quite understood why they would want to marry so much because given the fact that i don't particularly enjoy that institution... why would other progressive/liberal people such as myself want it? but like i said, i think it's because they don't see the traditional marriage at all, but are trying to move it forward in another direction.

seb - i have failed you! i didn't discuss children because i thought that was a bit offshoot/tangent to my discussion. i threw the serial monogamy out there as one of many alternatives to marriage.. bcos it seems like people DO get divorced in 5-7 year increments if they do at all. i don't necessarily advocate that when kids are involved. (and if you're talking about kids and wanting one, that's even MORE complicated in my brain for these very reasons). if you've read the article, it actually says cycling through partners when you raise a kid is bad for them and the best thing is to have a stable parenting. it doesn't matter if its hetero or homo as long as its stable! i have no source on the men taking a break thing. i just 'know' it to be true. typically, generally speaking. maybe men are from mars, women are from venus? heh. fail.

Sebastian said...

I understand the 'flow' of marriages, and that serial monogamy might 'make sense' (in our new-found understanding of human behaviour, or what?) -- but we kind of need kiddies, you know.

Some say that procreation is the most important aspect of survival!

The whole 'serial monogamy' sounds awfully selfish, in the grand scale of things. But hey, that's the 'modern view' of humans right, that we're basically just selfish?

floreta said...

i think serial monogamy can makes sense if you don't have kids. i know people get divorced anyway when they have kids but it's not something i would like to have happen.. and now that you're talking about procreating.. i fear/think that smarter people are the ones abstaining from kids/marriage and all that! so we might be dying off intelligent people which is none too intelligent! haven't you noticed that people in lower classes tend to have more kids? people that haven't gone through college education, etc? i agree serial monogamy is selfish. i pretty much don't want to marry UNLESS i can meet someone i feel completely selfless with.

floreta said...

old grizz - thanks for the comment! this entry took me about two days to write. heh. (with breaks of course) haha! two years of good sex and three years of misery!! boy does that sound too familiar. :P as far as looking for your next conquest thing.. i figure i will be with the 'right' person enough to marry when i no longer feel like "man, i've missed out on SO many experiences now that i'm stuck in a relationship." the funny thing is that when i'm single, i'm not inclined to seek out experiences.. because that's just how i am.. i'm not into the "single lifestyle" of hooking up. but when i've been in relationships, i always regret not having those experiences.. i figure when i can no longer regret and just feel completely comfortable and satiated in my relationship, that i am ready to marry. so far, i haven't had that yet :P

kristan - i think the "we're not meant to be monogamous" thing is a load of crap also. it's just a weak argument that polyamorous people throw out. we are NOT just animals programmed by evolution. like you said, we can accomplish SO MUCH more beyond our 'basic' programming. monogamy is a personal choice, and i think it is romantic when two people choose that together.

retromus - oh, it is beautiful! i'm just not sure i can believe it either, at least for myself.. until i can see it /experience it anyway! i have faith that i'll "know it when i see it". but not today.

sophie - i agree there needs to be a long-range perspective w/ children involved. i think that if society can't provide a good model, that the parents at least should! but i know that is often not even the case. also, living longer is another argument against monogamy. that marriage was designed for short lifespan and now that we're living so long, it is unreasonable to expect people to stay together that long.

quin browne said...

quite a read...

ThomG said...

Wonderfully written and thought-provoking.

Finality

floreta said...

linda may - i never noticed this phenomenon of males killing off a GFs previous offspring! and i'm trying to think of examples of higher animals that stay with the females but for the most part i think humans are the only species that uniquely nurtures/parents their young for as long as we do.. but i'm no expert

vesper - all good points m'dear :)

AD - aw thank you! i did put a lot into it. it took me longer than most! i'm quite proud of it :P

numero - aren't there still arranged marriages in india?

lovelila - its good for you that you don't feel you need a relationship. i think that will actually serve as a good thing in the long run. and the moment you meet that person (and you'll know).. you will know whether marriage is right for you.

quin - thanks. i hope that's good!

thom g - thank you

Aubrey said...

The problem today isn't marriage, but how we think of marriage.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I agree that the definition of marriage is up to the two people getting married, and if the two people don't subscribe to the same definitions, issues occur. Obviously I'm speaking from experience...

floreta said...

aubrey - Where couples flounder is when a model is in transition, or when two people can't agree with the model. It is at these re-evalution stages where crossroads can either weaken or strengthen a couples' bond.
obviously i'm speaking from experience too. haha. parallels..

Jack Webb said...

Interesting post and very well done. Is traditional obsolete? I really don't know. My 40th Annaversary is coming up in August and there have been a few rough spots where probably today couples would have taken the easier path and seperated. There is no cultural stigma attached to failed marriages like there once was. In fact many more women are choosing to be single. There was no friends with benifits back in my youth. The secret of my lengthy marriage? Love, Luck and lots of tolerence on both sides

Mrs. B. said...

Floreta-

I came across this blog doing a search for "Modern Marriage," because I am starting my own blog to describe my "Modern Marriage" and the struggles and fulfillments I find within it. I would be honored if you would follow my blog and give me your unique perspective- It's very important to me to have the perspective of GLBT people on my site because while I am in a same-sex relationship, I want my site to be welcoming and informative to all orientations. I loved this entry. Please keep up the good work! I will definitely be reading you often!

-Kelley